🎙️ Natalia sits down with renowned computer scientist Erik Meijer — a pioneer in programming languages, reactive systems, and AI-driven developer tools. With a career spanning Microsoft, Meta, and academia, Erik shares a candid, no-hype perspective on the evolution of AI and what it *really* means for the future of software.
We dive into: why AI isn't “intelligent” — and why that matters, the real story behind agents and “vibe coding”, how AI is closing the gap between ideas and execution, the architecture of AI-native software vs. traditional SaaS, why natural language is only the *first step* in new UI paradigms, what startups need to know to survive the model commoditization wave and how formal verification and agent safety will shape the next generation of tools.
Chapters
⏰ 00:00 Introduction to Erik Meijer and AI Journey
⏰ 05:12 The Evolution of AI: Past vs Present
⏰ 11:05 AI in Developer Tools: Current State and Future
⏰ 16:20 User Experience and Interfaces in AI Products
⏰ 21:17 Empowering Non-Technical Users with AI
⏰ 23:06 Natural Language as the New UI
⏰ 26:51 Understanding AI Agents and Their Impact
⏰ 31:35 Probabilistic Nature of AI and Trust Issues
⏰ 36:02 The Future of APIs in AI Development
⏰ 42:02 The AI Stack of the Future: Integration and Evolution
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